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PA Bear [MS MVP]

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:49 pm
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glee wrote:
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
>
>> glee wrote:
>> <snip>
>> real-time spyware scanner that nakes a good
>>> companion to Spyware Blaster.....and it is also made by the same folks:
>>> http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
>>
>> Except that it's not had an update since Jan-04 IIRC.
>
> See:
> Spywareguard Updates? - dslreports.com
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12410033?#12411725
>
> SpywareGuard Updates - Wilders Security Forums
> http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=23839

Well, yes, and we are talking about Win9x here which can't use Defender and
it's real-time protection. But I'd recommend WinPatrol/Spybot
SDHelper/SpywareBlaster instead of SpywareGuard. YMMV.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:47 pm
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FYI:
http://www.lavasoft.com/support/securitycenter/blog/

[quote]

Ad-Aware SE - SE1R213 Definitions file '730845 days out of date' problem fixed

There was a flaw in the latest definition update file (SE1R213) which reported
Ad-Aware SE Plus, Pro and Enterprise's definition file as being 730845 days out of
date. This issue has now been resolved. Please update Ad-Aware SE to obtain the
repaired file.

[/quote]
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Mart" wrote in message

> Current SE Definition File (14.01.2008) can be downloaded from :-
> http://www.lavasoft.com:80/support/securitycenter/blog/
>
> Right-hand side of the green Download button at the top of the page
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Roger Fink" wrote in message
>
>> wrote:
>>> I am trying to update my AdAware 1.06r1 definitions on my Win98SE
>>> computer ( using Avast, Sygate Personal Firewall) but for some reason,
>>> for the first time, when I click on "Connect", I get a message that no
>>> updates are available, this after 19 days without an update. My last
>>> successful update was on Dec. 27/07. Is there some problem I am
>>> unaware of. How can I fix this? I am a non-techie so please make your
>>> reply easy to follow. Thanks.
>>
>> Ad-aware SE Personal stopped updating in January. The replacement is
>> Ad-aware 2007 Free but Windows 98 is no longer supported. You might want to
>> consider Spybot S&D instead.
>>
>>
>
>

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:51 pm
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

> glee wrote:
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
>>
>>> glee wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>> real-time spyware scanner that nakes a good
>>>> companion to Spyware Blaster.....and it is also made by the same folks:
>>>> http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
>>>
>>> Except that it's not had an update since Jan-04 IIRC.
>>
>> See:
>> Spywareguard Updates? - dslreports.com
>> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12410033?#12411725
>>
>> SpywareGuard Updates - Wilders Security Forums
>> http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=23839
>
> Well, yes, and we are talking about Win9x here which can't use Defender and it's
> real-time protection. But I'd recommend WinPatrol/Spybot SDHelper/SpywareBlaster
> instead of SpywareGuard. YMMV.

WinPatrol....yes, that's a good alternative. I'd forgotten about that one.

I tend to refrain from recommending SpyBot to general users these days, though it is
a good tool, and I use it sometimes. I just find that the average Joe User has
trouble determining what that it finds actually needs to be removed.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
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pixturesk

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:59 pm
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On Jan 16, 1:33 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> Only use one active background spyware scanner, no more. You can have any
> number of on-demand scanners, but more than one background scanner can lead
> to problems.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
>
> wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 6:55 am, "glee" wrote:
> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in
> >> messagenews:eHigG4AWIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> >> > glee wrote:
> >> > <snip>
> >> > real-time spyware scanner that nakes a good
> >> >> companion to Spyware Blaster.....and it is also made by the same
> >> >> folks:
> >> >>http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
>
> >> > Except that it's not had an update since Jan-04 IIRC.
>
> >> See:
> >> Spywareguard Updates? -
> >> dslreports.comhttp://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12410033?#12411725
>
> >> SpywareGuard Updates - Wilders Security
> >> Forumshttp://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=23839
> >> --
> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User,
> >> A+http://dts-l.net/http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
> > While writing this, I am also trying Super AntiSpyware Free. The GUI
> > is even cleaner than Spyware Terminator but the Simple or Basic Scan
> > is taking more than twice as long as Spyware Terminator so this is an
> > obvious negative. However, I notice that the results are more accurate
> > than Spyware Terminator, which informs me that I have a particular
> > critical object, which, in fact, is an essential file for running my
> > specific Win98SE install. Along with Spyware Blaster, my main program,
> > is there any problem keeping both Super AntiSpyware + Spyware
> > Terminator on my computer or shall I just choose one, probably Super
> > AntiSpyware for the above reasons. Thanks.

So Gary, can I continue to use Spyware Blaster as my active scanner,
then turn off the active scanner in Spyware Terminator, continue to
install definition/program updates then using it to scan for malicious
files, then removing them as with AdAware Free. Thanks.
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user1435

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:28 am
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wrote in message

> On Jan 16, 1:33 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
>> Only use one active background spyware scanner, no more. You can have any
>> number of on-demand scanners, but more than one background scanner can lead
>> to problems.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
>>
>> wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 16, 6:55 am, "glee" wrote:
>> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in
>> >> messagenews:eHigG4AWIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> >> > glee wrote:
>> >> > <snip>
>> >> > real-time spyware scanner that nakes a good
>> >> >> companion to Spyware Blaster.....and it is also made by the same
>> >> >> folks:
>> >> >>http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
>>
>> >> > Except that it's not had an update since Jan-04 IIRC.
>>
>> >> See:
>> >> Spywareguard Updates? -
>> >> dslreports.comhttp://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12410033?#12411725
>>
>> >> SpywareGuard Updates - Wilders Security
>> >> Forumshttp://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=23839
>> >> --
>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User,
>> >> A+http://dts-l.net/http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>> > While writing this, I am also trying Super AntiSpyware Free. The GUI
>> > is even cleaner than Spyware Terminator but the Simple or Basic Scan
>> > is taking more than twice as long as Spyware Terminator so this is an
>> > obvious negative. However, I notice that the results are more accurate
>> > than Spyware Terminator, which informs me that I have a particular
>> > critical object, which, in fact, is an essential file for running my
>> > specific Win98SE install. Along with Spyware Blaster, my main program,
>> > is there any problem keeping both Super AntiSpyware + Spyware
>> > Terminator on my computer or shall I just choose one, probably Super
>> > AntiSpyware for the above reasons. Thanks.
>
> So Gary, can I continue to use Spyware Blaster as my active scanner,
> then turn off the active scanner in Spyware Terminator, continue to
> install definition/program updates then using it to scan for malicious
> files, then removing them as with AdAware Free. Thanks.

No, SpywareBlaster is not any type of active scanner, it does not run unless you
execute it to update the defs it places in CLSID in the registry. Once updated you
close it and the entries in the CLSID are what blocks adware/spyware from entering
your machine, not SpywareBlaster.

--
Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
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glee1

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:27 am
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wrote in message

> On Jan 16, 1:33 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
>> Only use one active background spyware scanner, no more. You can have any
>> number of on-demand scanners, but more than one background scanner can lead
>> to problems.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
>>
>> wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 16, 6:55 am, "glee" wrote:
>> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in
>> >> messagenews:eHigG4AWIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> >> > glee wrote:
>> >> > <snip>
>> >> > real-time spyware scanner that nakes a good
>> >> >> companion to Spyware Blaster.....and it is also made by the same
>> >> >> folks:
>> >> >>http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
>>
>> >> > Except that it's not had an update since Jan-04 IIRC.
>>
>> >> See:
>> >> Spywareguard Updates? -
>> >> dslreports.comhttp://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12410033?#12411725
>>
>> >> SpywareGuard Updates - Wilders Security
>> >> Forumshttp://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=23839
>> >> --
>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User,
>> >> A+http://dts-l.net/http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>> > While writing this, I am also trying Super AntiSpyware Free. The GUI
>> > is even cleaner than Spyware Terminator but the Simple or Basic Scan
>> > is taking more than twice as long as Spyware Terminator so this is an
>> > obvious negative. However, I notice that the results are more accurate
>> > than Spyware Terminator, which informs me that I have a particular
>> > critical object, which, in fact, is an essential file for running my
>> > specific Win98SE install. Along with Spyware Blaster, my main program,
>> > is there any problem keeping both Super AntiSpyware + Spyware
>> > Terminator on my computer or shall I just choose one, probably Super
>> > AntiSpyware for the above reasons. Thanks.
>
> So Gary, can I continue to use Spyware Blaster as my active scanner,
> then turn off the active scanner in Spyware Terminator, continue to
> install definition/program updates then using it to scan for malicious
> files, then removing them as with AdAware Free. Thanks.

SpywareBlaster is *NOT* an "active scanner" in any sense. It puts particular
kill-bits in the Registry to prevent known spyware from installing, and has the
ability to put particular web sites in the Restricted zone, and so forth, but it
does not run in the background or scan absolutely anything.

Gary was referring to not running the two active scanners together.....Spyware
Terminator and SuperAntiSpyware.

If you want an active scanner, then you would keep either SuperAntiSpyware's or
Spyware Terminator's background scanner loaded.....OR WinPatrol as mentioned by
Robear, which is very good alternative:
http://www.winpatrol.com/
--
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http://dts-l.net/
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Mart

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:46 am
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Thanks for the heads-up Glen

Mart


"glee" wrote in message

> FYI:
> http://www.lavasoft.com/support/securitycenter/blog/
>
> [quote]
>
> Ad-Aware SE - SE1R213 Definitions file '730845 days out of date' problem
> fixed
>
> There was a flaw in the latest definition update file (SE1R213) which
> reported Ad-Aware SE Plus, Pro and Enterprise's definition file as being
> 730845 days out of date. This issue has now been resolved. Please update
> Ad-Aware SE to obtain the repaired file.
>
> [/quote]
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Mart" wrote in message
>
>> Current SE Definition File (14.01.2008) can be downloaded from :-
>> http://www.lavasoft.com:80/support/securitycenter/blog/
>>
>> Right-hand side of the green Download button at the top of the page
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "Roger Fink" wrote in message
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I am trying to update my AdAware 1.06r1 definitions on my Win98SE
>>>> computer ( using Avast, Sygate Personal Firewall) but for some reason,
>>>> for the first time, when I click on "Connect", I get a message that no
>>>> updates are available, this after 19 days without an update. My last
>>>> successful update was on Dec. 27/07. Is there some problem I am
>>>> unaware of. How can I fix this? I am a non-techie so please make your
>>>> reply easy to follow. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Ad-aware SE Personal stopped updating in January. The replacement is
>>> Ad-aware 2007 Free but Windows 98 is no longer supported. You might want
>>> to
>>> consider Spybot S&D instead.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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pixturesk

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:29 am
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On Jan 16, 8:28 pm, "Brian A." wrote:
> wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 1:33 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> >> Only use one active background spyware scanner, no more. You can have any
> >> number of on-demand scanners, but more than one background scanner can lead
> >> to problems.
>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
>
> >> wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >> > On Jan 16, 6:55 am, "glee" wrote:
> >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in
> >> >> messagenews:eHigG4AWIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> >> >> > glee wrote:
> >> >> > <snip>
> >> >> > real-time spyware scanner that nakes a good
> >> >> >> companion to Spyware Blaster.....and it is also made by the same
> >> >> >> folks:
> >> >> >>http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
>
> >> >> > Except that it's not had an update since Jan-04 IIRC.
>
> >> >> See:
> >> >> Spywareguard Updates? -
> >> >> dslreports.comhttp://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12410033?#12411725
>
> >> >> SpywareGuard Updates - Wilders Security
> >> >> Forumshttp://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=23839
> >> >> --
> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User,
> >> >> A+http://dts-l.net/http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
> >> > While writing this, I am also trying Super AntiSpyware Free. The GUI
> >> > is even cleaner than Spyware Terminator but the Simple or Basic Scan
> >> > is taking more than twice as long as Spyware Terminator so this is an
> >> > obvious negative. However, I notice that the results are more accurate
> >> > than Spyware Terminator, which informs me that I have a particular
> >> > critical object, which, in fact, is an essential file for running my
> >> > specific Win98SE install. Along with Spyware Blaster, my main program,
> >> > is there any problem keeping both Super AntiSpyware + Spyware
> >> > Terminator on my computer or shall I just choose one, probably Super
> >> > AntiSpyware for the above reasons. Thanks.
>
> > So Gary, can I continue to use Spyware Blaster as my active scanner,
> > then turn off the active scanner in Spyware Terminator, continue to
> > install definition/program updates then using it to scan for malicious
> > files, then removing them as with AdAware Free. Thanks.
>
> No, SpywareBlaster is not any type of active scanner, it does not run unless you
> execute it to update the defs it places in CLSID in the registry. Once updated you
> close it and the entries in the CLSID are what blocks adware/spyware from entering
> your machine, not SpywareBlaster.
>
> --
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

Thanks guys. So I will continue to run Spyware Terminator as my active
scanner (updating regularly) with the icon in the SysTray, as well as
continuing to update Spyware Blaster. I also use Avast + Sygate.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:48 pm
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' A-Squared' gobbles all the others up,, is definately the flavour of the month,,, and Free.
(and best of all, Win98 is supported...!)

I still get the 'same' error msg as what I did six months ago from Adaware, when trying to download
the updates..... it always comes up with "Error" after retrieving 5%;; and it has been
discussed to death in the n/g's. A-Squared is the next step up from Adaware.
Still keep Spybot, and also SpyBlaster etc,,, and as always, make sure you update regularly, as
with all free programs.

(A-squared has the largest data-base of known attack proggies that I have seen so far)
http://www.emsisoft.com/en/

http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/download/

still, is all about choice I suppose.


wrote in message

> On Jan 16, 8:28 pm, "Brian A." wrote:
> > wrote in message
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 16, 1:33 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> > >> Only use one active background spyware scanner, no more. You can have any
> > >> number of on-demand scanners, but more than one background scanner can lead
> > >> to problems.
> >
> > >> --
> > >> Gary S. Terhune
> > >> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
> >
> > >> wrote in message
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> > On Jan 16, 6:55 am, "glee" wrote:
> > >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in
> > >> >> messagenews:eHigG4AWIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >
> > >> >> > glee wrote:
> > >> >> > <snip>
> > >> >> > real-time spyware scanner that nakes a good
> > >> >> >> companion to Spyware Blaster.....and it is also made by the same
> > >> >> >> folks:
> > >> >> >>http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
> >
> > >> >> > Except that it's not had an update since Jan-04 IIRC.
> >
> > >> >> See:
> > >> >> Spywareguard Updates? -
> > >> >> dslreports.comhttp://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12410033?#12411725
> >
> > >> >> SpywareGuard Updates - Wilders Security
> > >> >> Forumshttp://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=23839
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User,
> > >> >> A+http://dts-l.net/http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> >
> > >> > While writing this, I am also trying Super AntiSpyware Free. The GUI
> > >> > is even cleaner than Spyware Terminator but the Simple or Basic Scan
> > >> > is taking more than twice as long as Spyware Terminator so this is an
> > >> > obvious negative. However, I notice that the results are more accurate
> > >> > than Spyware Terminator, which informs me that I have a particular
> > >> > critical object, which, in fact, is an essential file for running my
> > >> > specific Win98SE install. Along with Spyware Blaster, my main program,
> > >> > is there any problem keeping both Super AntiSpyware + Spyware
> > >> > Terminator on my computer or shall I just choose one, probably Super
> > >> > AntiSpyware for the above reasons. Thanks.
> >
> > > So Gary, can I continue to use Spyware Blaster as my active scanner,
> > > then turn off the active scanner in Spyware Terminator, continue to
> > > install definition/program updates then using it to scan for malicious
> > > files, then removing them as with AdAware Free. Thanks.
> >
> > No, SpywareBlaster is not any type of active scanner, it does not run unless you
> > execute it to update the defs it places in CLSID in the registry. Once updated you
> > close it and the entries in the CLSID are what blocks adware/spyware from entering
> > your machine, not SpywareBlaster.
> >
> > --
> > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> > Conflicts start where information lacks.http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >
> > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
> Thanks guys. So I will continue to run Spyware Terminator as my active
> scanner (updating regularly) with the icon in the SysTray, as well as
> continuing to update Spyware Blaster. I also use Avast + Sygate.
>
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:28 pm
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"Roger Fink" wrote in message

>
>
> wrote:
> > On Jan 15, 7:38 pm, "Roger Fink" wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>> I am trying to update my AdAware 1.06r1 definitions on my Win98SE
> >>> computer ( using Avast, Sygate Personal Firewall) but for some
> >>> reason, for the first time, when I click on "Connect", I get a
> >>> message that no updates are available, this after 19 days without
> >>> an update. My last successful update was on Dec. 27/07. Is there
> >>> some problem I am
> >>> unaware of. How can I fix this? I am a non-techie so please make
> >>> your reply easy to follow. Thanks.
> >>
> >> Ad-aware SE Personal stopped updating in January. The replacement is
> >> Ad-aware 2007 Free but Windows 98 is no longer supported. You might
> >> want to consider Spybot S&D instead.
> >
> > I tried Spybot S+D, for some reason took forever to load, so I
> > uninstalled, then install Spyware Terminator, which removes necessary
> > files, goes too far!! so I uninstalled it. I have been using Spyware
> > Blaster for quite awhile. Is that enough, on its own, to replace
> > AdAware? Thanks
>
> I had the same problem in 1.5 and I gather from their forum so did a lot
of
> others. Not that I'm boosting Spybot S&D, but they've recently fixed it -
> the version I have installed now, 1.5.1.19, does not have this problem. It
> does take a long time to finish a scan compared to 1.4 but what I've read
at
> least is that it's because it's a lot more thorough.
>
> I'm not a fan of either AdAware or Spybot S&D because I think they don't
provide any real protection against spyware and other malicious nasties.
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If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:37 am
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DaffyDŽ wrote:
>> I'm not a fan of either AdAware or Spybot S&D because I think they
>> don't
> provide any real protection against spyware and other malicious
> nasties.

Then, what would you recommend?
I use SuperAntiSpyWare and SpyWareBlaster and I rarely even encounter any
spyware.
Perhaps, I should open up my firewall so that I could check to see if the
above programs really work. Smile
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:52 pm
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Care to elaborate?

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"DaffyDŽ" wrote in message

> I'm not a fan of either AdAware or Spybot S&D because I think they don't
> provide any real protection against spyware and other malicious nasties.
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> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:29 pm
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DaffyDŽ wrote:
> "Roger Fink" wrote in message
>
>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>> On Jan 15, 7:38 pm, "Roger Fink" wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I am trying to update my AdAware 1.06r1 definitions on my Win98SE
>>>>> computer ( using Avast, Sygate Personal Firewall) but for some
>>>>> reason, for the first time, when I click on "Connect", I get a
>>>>> message that no updates are available, this after 19 days without
>>>>> an update. My last successful update was on Dec. 27/07. Is there
>>>>> some problem I am
>>>>> unaware of. How can I fix this? I am a non-techie so please make
>>>>> your reply easy to follow. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Ad-aware SE Personal stopped updating in January. The replacement
>>>> is Ad-aware 2007 Free but Windows 98 is no longer supported. You
>>>> might want to consider Spybot S&D instead.
>>>
>>> I tried Spybot S+D, for some reason took forever to load, so I
>>> uninstalled, then install Spyware Terminator, which removes
>>> necessary files, goes too far!! so I uninstalled it. I have been
>>> using Spyware Blaster for quite awhile. Is that enough, on its own,
>>> to replace AdAware? Thanks
>>
>> I had the same problem in 1.5 and I gather from their forum so did a
>> lot of others. Not that I'm boosting Spybot S&D, but they've
>> recently fixed it - the version I have installed now, 1.5.1.19, does
>> not have this problem. It does take a long time to finish a scan
>> compared to 1.4 but what I've read at least is that it's because
>> it's a lot more thorough.
>>
>> I'm not a fan of either AdAware or Spybot S&D because I think they
>> don't
> provide any real protection against spyware and other malicious
> nasties.

It's an adequate response for me. The threat isn't the same for everybody,
and the additional "housekeeping" people do varies from person to person.
Real time protection is a nice feature, but you trade that off against the o
verall performance and buginess of your machine.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:16 pm
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"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> Care to elaborate?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "DaffyDŽ" wrote in message
>
> > I'm not a fan of either AdAware or Spybot S&D because I think they don't
> > provide any real protection against spyware and other malicious nasties.
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> > { : [|]=( DaffyDŽ
> >
> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
> >
> > I've done a lot of research on antivirus discussion groups,
news.grc.security software. I've also used both programs and run scams.
Also, I've looked at spyware comparision charts and articles.
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,22262-order,1-page,1-c,alldo...oads/de

> "In tests performed by AV-Test.org for the "Spyware Specialists" story,
Spybot performed worst of the five products tested."


http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,126883/article.html

"Ad-Aware SE Personal, which lacks even e-mail tech support, is by
definition a crippled program since Lavasoft wants you to upgrade to the
paid product. As a result, we recommend it as good second layer of defense
against adware and spyware--but your primary application should have
real-time protection."

I've also used the paid version in the past. Maybe I was lucky, but it only
uncovered cookies that I can delete myself for free.

By the way, I do use Spyware Blaster.
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:42 pm
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"Buffalo" wrote in message

> DaffyDŽ wrote:
> >> I'm not a fan of either AdAware or Spybot S&D because I think they
> >> don't
> > provide any real protection against spyware and other malicious
> > nasties.
>
> Then, what would you recommend?
> I use SuperAntiSpyWare and SpyWareBlaster and I rarely even encounter any
> spyware.
> Perhaps, I should open up my firewall so that I could check to see if the
> above programs really work. Smile
>
> I do use SpyWare Blaster myself and have never had any problems. However,
the only entity that has ever hijacked my home page has been Microsoft when
I repaired IE.

I've done a lot of research on antivirus discussion groups,
> news.grc.security software. I've also used both programs and run scams.
> Also, I've looked at spyware comparision charts and articles.
>
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,22262-order,1-page,1-c,alldo...oads/de
>
> > "In tests performed by AV-Test.org for the "Spyware Specialists" story,
> Spybot performed worst of the five products tested."
>
> > http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,126883/article.html
>
> "Ad-Aware SE Personal, which lacks even e-mail tech support, is by
> definition a crippled program since Lavasoft wants you to upgrade to the
> paid product. As a result, we recommend it as good second layer of defense
> against adware and spyware--but your primary application should have
> real-time protection."

Also, do a search for spyware dectectors on about.com. Just about all of
them will report false positives or negatives.
>
> I've also used the paid version in the past. Maybe I was lucky, but it
only
> uncovered cookies that I can delete myself for free.

> There is a new version of Adaware , 2007, the Pro verion of which has
received good reviews. I plan to try it and will report back. This one
contains a rootkit detector which the free version lacks.

Also, check out Spyware Sweeper. It's the highest rated of these class of
programs.

> http://www.consumersearch.com/www/software/anti-spyware-reviews/index.html

The review also advises the use of free programs. Our IT department at work
installed the free versions of Spybot S&D and Adaware. They also use the
McAfee firewall. Again from my research, I don't agree with their choices.
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