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pabearmvp

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Since: Nov 18, 2004
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:33 pm
Post subject: Re: WARNING: KB942615 may require an extra reboot to apply correctly [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsupdate, others (more info?)

Bill Drake wrote:
<snip>
> If KB942615 requires the new functionality embedded in
> KB945007 - then that should have been explicitly added to
> the KB942615 package.

I'm afraid you've got the wrong end of the stick here, Bill. The "Click to
activate" feature has been included in all Cumulative Updates for IE since
May-06, including 942615. Installing 945007 disables the "Click to
activate" feature. I believe that Freudi was suggesting that you install
945007 to see if doing so resolves your problem.
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MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
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Donald Anadell

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:43 pm
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Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Since this seems to be the Tread most relevant to the Urlmon.dll crashes in
IE6 after applying KB942615 I'll post my experiences with this Patch here.

In a home environment with Windows XP Home SP2 and IE6, I'm also
experiencing random crashes of IE6 with urlmon.dll as the faulting module
since manually installing this Update late Tuesday evening.

The following screenshot depicts the Application errors in the Event Viewer
that are incurred since installing this Update:
http://users.mikrotec.com/danadell/wwwpages/test/urlmonDllErrors.gif

While they are random in nature, as you can see by the screenshot they are
beginning to amass.

This problem does not exist on the machines with IE7 and KB942615 installed,
only on the machine with IE6 and KB942615 installed.

My two cents worth.

Donald Anadell


"Bill Drake" wrote in message

> When I installed the Patch Tuesday updates on my WXP Box
> with MSIE6 installed. I had the same problems with IE6 startup
> as others are mentioning in these newsgroups.
>
> Specifically, about 60% of the time, I would get an "Internet
> Explorer has encountered a problem and must close" dialog.
> I dutifully reported the failure to Microsoft and then repeatedly
> tried reopening IE6 until it would successfully open.
>
> The above occurred when opening my default homepage,
> which is "My MSN" - and is heavily customized.
>
> Cleaning my Internet Explorer Tempfolder and moving to a
> blank opening page solved the problem. However, this was
> not an acceptable solution.
>
> I then rebooted the machine, restored my default homepage
> and tried opening IE6 again. Now, the machine is working
> correctly, even after multiple open/close cycles.
>
>
> I suspect the KB942615 update should be coded to force a reboot
> and does not. Consequently, some part of the update that requires
> a reboot before the update is fully applied does not get done.
>
> As a result, installing this update without the reboot causes IE6
> to run in a "half-updated/half-not-updated" mode - which causes
> the problem described above to occur.
>
> For those experiencing this problem, please try moving to a blank
> opening page - and then reboot your machine again after the
> KB942615 update is installed. Once this is done, restore your
> default homepage. See if this procedure resolves your problem.
>
>
> Best I can do for now. <tm>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>

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Kurt Falde [MSFT]

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:36 pm
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Please try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942367 and let us know if this
resolves your issues.
Use the online request form to get the fix.


--
Kurt Falde [MSFT]




"Donald Anadell" wrote in message

> Since this seems to be the Tread most relevant to the Urlmon.dll crashes
> in
> IE6 after applying KB942615 I'll post my experiences with this Patch here.
>
> In a home environment with Windows XP Home SP2 and IE6, I'm also
> experiencing random crashes of IE6 with urlmon.dll as the faulting module
> since manually installing this Update late Tuesday evening.
>
> The following screenshot depicts the Application errors in the Event
> Viewer
> that are incurred since installing this Update:
> http://users.mikrotec.com/danadell/wwwpages/test/urlmonDllErrors.gif
>
> While they are random in nature, as you can see by the screenshot they are
> beginning to amass.
>
> This problem does not exist on the machines with IE7 and KB942615
> installed,
> only on the machine with IE6 and KB942615 installed.
>
> My two cents worth.
>
> Donald Anadell
>
>
> "Bill Drake" wrote in message
>
>> When I installed the Patch Tuesday updates on my WXP Box
>> with MSIE6 installed. I had the same problems with IE6 startup
>> as others are mentioning in these newsgroups.
>>
>> Specifically, about 60% of the time, I would get an "Internet
>> Explorer has encountered a problem and must close" dialog.
>> I dutifully reported the failure to Microsoft and then repeatedly
>> tried reopening IE6 until it would successfully open.
>>
>> The above occurred when opening my default homepage,
>> which is "My MSN" - and is heavily customized.
>>
>> Cleaning my Internet Explorer Tempfolder and moving to a
>> blank opening page solved the problem. However, this was
>> not an acceptable solution.
>>
>> I then rebooted the machine, restored my default homepage
>> and tried opening IE6 again. Now, the machine is working
>> correctly, even after multiple open/close cycles.
>>
>>
>> I suspect the KB942615 update should be coded to force a reboot
>> and does not. Consequently, some part of the update that requires
>> a reboot before the update is fully applied does not get done.
>>
>> As a result, installing this update without the reboot causes IE6
>> to run in a "half-updated/half-not-updated" mode - which causes
>> the problem described above to occur.
>>
>> For those experiencing this problem, please try moving to a blank
>> opening page - and then reboot your machine again after the
>> KB942615 update is installed. Once this is done, restore your
>> default homepage. See if this procedure resolves your problem.
>>
>>
>> Best I can do for now. <tm>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Donald Anadell

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:05 pm
Post subject: Re: WARNING: KB942615 may require an extra reboot to apply correctly [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Thanks for the feedback Kurt,

I've submitted for the Hotfix, when I get the link back and get it
downloaded and installed I'll post back the results.

Donald Anadell


"Kurt Falde [MSFT]" wrote in message

> Please try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942367 and let us know if this
> resolves your issues.
> Use the online request form to get the fix.
>
>
> --
> Kurt Falde [MSFT]
>
>
>
>
> "Donald Anadell" wrote in message
>
>> Since this seems to be the Tread most relevant to the Urlmon.dll crashes
>> in
>> IE6 after applying KB942615 I'll post my experiences with this Patch
>> here.
>>
>> In a home environment with Windows XP Home SP2 and IE6, I'm also
>> experiencing random crashes of IE6 with urlmon.dll as the faulting module
>> since manually installing this Update late Tuesday evening.
>>
>> The following screenshot depicts the Application errors in the Event
>> Viewer
>> that are incurred since installing this Update:
>> http://users.mikrotec.com/danadell/wwwpages/test/urlmonDllErrors.gif
>>
>> While they are random in nature, as you can see by the screenshot they
>> are
>> beginning to amass.
>>
>> This problem does not exist on the machines with IE7 and KB942615
>> installed,
>> only on the machine with IE6 and KB942615 installed.
>>
>> My two cents worth.
>>
>> Donald Anadell
>>
>>
>> "Bill Drake" wrote in message
>>
>>> When I installed the Patch Tuesday updates on my WXP Box
>>> with MSIE6 installed. I had the same problems with IE6 startup
>>> as others are mentioning in these newsgroups.
>>>
>>> Specifically, about 60% of the time, I would get an "Internet
>>> Explorer has encountered a problem and must close" dialog.
>>> I dutifully reported the failure to Microsoft and then repeatedly
>>> tried reopening IE6 until it would successfully open.
>>>
>>> The above occurred when opening my default homepage,
>>> which is "My MSN" - and is heavily customized.
>>>
>>> Cleaning my Internet Explorer Tempfolder and moving to a
>>> blank opening page solved the problem. However, this was
>>> not an acceptable solution.
>>>
>>> I then rebooted the machine, restored my default homepage
>>> and tried opening IE6 again. Now, the machine is working
>>> correctly, even after multiple open/close cycles.
>>>
>>>
>>> I suspect the KB942615 update should be coded to force a reboot
>>> and does not. Consequently, some part of the update that requires
>>> a reboot before the update is fully applied does not get done.
>>>
>>> As a result, installing this update without the reboot causes IE6
>>> to run in a "half-updated/half-not-updated" mode - which causes
>>> the problem described above to occur.
>>>
>>> For those experiencing this problem, please try moving to a blank
>>> opening page - and then reboot your machine again after the
>>> KB942615 update is installed. Once this is done, restore your
>>> default homepage. See if this procedure resolves your problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best I can do for now. <tm>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Donald Anadell

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:40 am
Post subject: Re: WARNING: KB942615 may require an extra reboot to apply correctly [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Hi Kurt,

I received the KB942367 Hotfix and installed it along with the associated
Registry Tweak. Only some time and some heavy Browsing will tell if this
has fixed the Urlmon.dll crashing problem in IE6, so far so good but I'll
give it a few days to see how it goes.

I am a little bewildered as to the version of Urlmon.dll that remains in the
System32 folder and dllcache folder though after applying the hotfix. The
Article(KB942367) implies that the hotfix will install version 6.0.2900.3213
of urlmon.dll(or am I reading that wrong). However, after applying the
hotfix I'm still left with the version of urlmon.dll that was installed
KB942615 Cumulative Security Update, version 6.0.2900.3231.

Does this sound right to you, the hotfix should only patch the existing
urlmon.dll file as long as it is version 6.0.2900.3213(or higher), or is it
supposed to replace the existing version with a specific version? I
extracted all the files from the hotfix setup file and I don't see a
urlmon.dll file included in the setup, maybe it's just the geek speak in the
KB Article that has me looking for something that isn't supposed to be
there:o)

At any rate,

1. I applied the hotfix offered as you suggested.
2. Performed the Registry Tweak after installing the hotfix(per the
instructions the KB942367 Article).
3. After performing steps one and two, I'm left with urlmon.dll version
6.0.2900.3231 in both the System32 and dllcache folders.

LOL...I'll be glad when SP3 arrives, fixing Updates with hotfixes it taking
it to the extreme for my 60 year old brain:)

Thanks again for your assistance,

Donald Anadell


"Donald Anadell" wrote in message

> Thanks for the feedback Kurt,
>
> I've submitted for the Hotfix, when I get the link back and get it
> downloaded and installed I'll post back the results.
>
> Donald Anadell
>
>
> "Kurt Falde [MSFT]" wrote in message
>
>> Please try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942367 and let us know if this
>> resolves your issues.
>> Use the online request form to get the fix.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kurt Falde [MSFT]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Donald Anadell" wrote in message
>>
>>> Since this seems to be the Tread most relevant to the Urlmon.dll crashes
>>> in
>>> IE6 after applying KB942615 I'll post my experiences with this Patch
>>> here.
>>>
>>> In a home environment with Windows XP Home SP2 and IE6, I'm also
>>> experiencing random crashes of IE6 with urlmon.dll as the faulting
>>> module
>>> since manually installing this Update late Tuesday evening.
>>>
>>> The following screenshot depicts the Application errors in the Event
>>> Viewer
>>> that are incurred since installing this Update:
>>> http://users.mikrotec.com/danadell/wwwpages/test/urlmonDllErrors.gif
>>>
>>> While they are random in nature, as you can see by the screenshot they
>>> are
>>> beginning to amass.
>>>
>>> This problem does not exist on the machines with IE7 and KB942615
>>> installed,
>>> only on the machine with IE6 and KB942615 installed.
>>>
>>> My two cents worth.
>>>
>>> Donald Anadell
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill Drake" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> When I installed the Patch Tuesday updates on my WXP Box
>>>> with MSIE6 installed. I had the same problems with IE6 startup
>>>> as others are mentioning in these newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, about 60% of the time, I would get an "Internet
>>>> Explorer has encountered a problem and must close" dialog.
>>>> I dutifully reported the failure to Microsoft and then repeatedly
>>>> tried reopening IE6 until it would successfully open.
>>>>
>>>> The above occurred when opening my default homepage,
>>>> which is "My MSN" - and is heavily customized.
>>>>
>>>> Cleaning my Internet Explorer Tempfolder and moving to a
>>>> blank opening page solved the problem. However, this was
>>>> not an acceptable solution.
>>>>
>>>> I then rebooted the machine, restored my default homepage
>>>> and tried opening IE6 again. Now, the machine is working
>>>> correctly, even after multiple open/close cycles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suspect the KB942615 update should be coded to force a reboot
>>>> and does not. Consequently, some part of the update that requires
>>>> a reboot before the update is fully applied does not get done.
>>>>
>>>> As a result, installing this update without the reboot causes IE6
>>>> to run in a "half-updated/half-not-updated" mode - which causes
>>>> the problem described above to occur.
>>>>
>>>> For those experiencing this problem, please try moving to a blank
>>>> opening page - and then reboot your machine again after the
>>>> KB942615 update is installed. Once this is done, restore your
>>>> default homepage. See if this procedure resolves your problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best I can do for now. <tm>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Ottmar Freudenberger

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:16 am
Post subject: Re: WARNING: KB942615 may require an extra reboot to apply correctly [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Bill Drake" schrieb:

>>>> Hm, I know, it's just another workaround (for an issue I'm *not*
>>>> seeing here so far), but in the past disableing HTTP 1.1 in the
>>>> Internet Options under Advanced "solved" some of these
>>>> problems IIRC.
>>>
>>> I haven't seen this problem before now. This particular set of
>>> updates to the MSIE6 dll-set seems to be the cause of the issue.
>>
>> Sure, there may or my not be issues caused by KB924615 for those
>> (still) running IE6 on Windows XP SP2. But a workaround is a
>> workaround and "may" be faster than waiting for MS to fix a possible
>> issue (of what they still seem to be not aware as of yet, see the
>> revised Security Bulletin - have you opened a call to MS?) *and*
>> protecting the system from the security holes.
>
> I was involved in a lot of the detective work that went into discovering
> the early mouse-driver problems with latency-conditions that caused
> lockups and instability with early versions of IE.

Fine. Have you *tried* to deactivate HTTP 1.1 at least for proxy
connections?

> IMO, this will not be resolved by hiding the issue -

Once again: I'm trying to find a working workaround for users having
the issue with IE6 on Windows XP SP2. I'm not trying to *resolve* the
issue, that's MS's job.

>> So, have you *tried* to disable HTTP 1.1 in the Internet Options and
>> checked whether the issue you're seeing is still present after that
>> *workaround*?
>
> Nope. As Mike Le mentioned, he has already done the investigative
> work on that issue. It solves the problem only by massive loss of
> feature capability.

Since I'm not reading windowsxp.general, I'm not seeing any posting
you're referring too which posted in windowsxp.general only. Please
note, that there are *two* HTTP 1.1 options.

> This is not a viable solution to the problem. It
> is a workaround in name only. To dignify this by calling it a "solution"
> is to allow Microsoft to sweep this issue under the rug. This is
> completely unacceptable.

Once again: I'm trying to find a working workaround for users having
the issue with IE6 on Windows XP SP2. I'm not trying to *resolve* the
issue, that's MS's job.

>>>> You've tried installing KB945007 (not offered via WU but in
>>>> DonwloadCenter) which contains another version of mshtml.dll?
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945007/en-us
>>>
>>> No, I have not tried this, since this is a regression testing
>>> issue I expect Microsoft to handle before issuing KB942615.
>>
>> Huh? You're actively working with MS on the issue already?
>
> No. As mentioned earlier, Mike Le already has an open PSS
> issue on this subject. I don't need to duplicate Mike's work - all
> I need to do is let MS know that Mike is not alone in his problems
> and that MS needs to get to work on solving this properly.

And that would be made sure by contacting PSS - *everyone* having the
issue should contact PSS to make *sure* that MS is aware of an issue
and push them looking for the cause of the issue.

>>> If KB942615 requires the new functionality embedded in
>>> KB945007 - then that should have been explicitly added to
>>> the KB942615 package.
>>
>> That's the theory, yes. Now to the practice: does the issue
>> exists with KB945007 for IE6 on Windows XP SP2 beeing
>> installed?

No answer? Well...

> Once I am
> sure that KB942615 and *only* KB942615 is the issue, I will say so.

It is, believe me. But the issue obviously doesn't show it's ugly
face to all users running IE6 on Windows XP SP2 after installing
KB942615.

>> And yes, of course, I have another possible workaround in mind:
>> Downloading KB942615 manually, save it and installing the update whith
>> parameter "/b:SP2QFE" - see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/897225/
>> for your reference.

> I may look at this
> if I have time next week, but I consider this kind of testing to be
> something
> PSS needs to do as part of their research into the problem.

Once again: I'm trying to find a working workaround for users having
the issue with IE6 on Windows XP SP2. I'm not trying to *resolve* the
issue, that's MS's job. And no, posting into microsoft.public.*
newsgroups doesn't mean that the posting are read by "MS".

Bye,
Freudi
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Kurt Falde [MSFT]

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:33 am
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From what another engineer told me this is right. the fix in 942367
probably did not need to be installed just the registry key needs to be in
place as this fix is already included in the urlmon.dll thats in the update
just released. Thanks for letting me know.

--
Kurt Falde [MSFT]




"Donald Anadell" wrote in message

> Hi Kurt,
>
> I received the KB942367 Hotfix and installed it along with the associated
> Registry Tweak. Only some time and some heavy Browsing will tell if this
> has fixed the Urlmon.dll crashing problem in IE6, so far so good but I'll
> give it a few days to see how it goes.
>
> I am a little bewildered as to the version of Urlmon.dll that remains in
> the System32 folder and dllcache folder though after applying the hotfix.
> The Article(KB942367) implies that the hotfix will install version
> 6.0.2900.3213 of urlmon.dll(or am I reading that wrong). However, after
> applying the hotfix I'm still left with the version of urlmon.dll that was
> installed KB942615 Cumulative Security Update, version 6.0.2900.3231.
>
> Does this sound right to you, the hotfix should only patch the existing
> urlmon.dll file as long as it is version 6.0.2900.3213(or higher), or is
> it supposed to replace the existing version with a specific version? I
> extracted all the files from the hotfix setup file and I don't see a
> urlmon.dll file included in the setup, maybe it's just the geek speak in
> the KB Article that has me looking for something that isn't supposed to be
> there:o)
>
> At any rate,
>
> 1. I applied the hotfix offered as you suggested.
> 2. Performed the Registry Tweak after installing the hotfix(per the
> instructions the KB942367 Article).
> 3. After performing steps one and two, I'm left with urlmon.dll version
> 6.0.2900.3231 in both the System32 and dllcache folders.
>
> LOL...I'll be glad when SP3 arrives, fixing Updates with hotfixes it
> taking it to the extreme for my 60 year old brain:)
>
> Thanks again for your assistance,
>
> Donald Anadell
>
>
> "Donald Anadell" wrote in message
>
>> Thanks for the feedback Kurt,
>>
>> I've submitted for the Hotfix, when I get the link back and get it
>> downloaded and installed I'll post back the results.
>>
>> Donald Anadell
>>
>>
>> "Kurt Falde [MSFT]" wrote in message
>>
>>> Please try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942367 and let us know if
>>> this resolves your issues.
>>> Use the online request form to get the fix.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kurt Falde [MSFT]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Donald Anadell" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Since this seems to be the Tread most relevant to the Urlmon.dll
>>>> crashes in
>>>> IE6 after applying KB942615 I'll post my experiences with this Patch
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> In a home environment with Windows XP Home SP2 and IE6, I'm also
>>>> experiencing random crashes of IE6 with urlmon.dll as the faulting
>>>> module
>>>> since manually installing this Update late Tuesday evening.
>>>>
>>>> The following screenshot depicts the Application errors in the Event
>>>> Viewer
>>>> that are incurred since installing this Update:
>>>> http://users.mikrotec.com/danadell/wwwpages/test/urlmonDllErrors.gif
>>>>
>>>> While they are random in nature, as you can see by the screenshot they
>>>> are
>>>> beginning to amass.
>>>>
>>>> This problem does not exist on the machines with IE7 and KB942615
>>>> installed,
>>>> only on the machine with IE6 and KB942615 installed.
>>>>
>>>> My two cents worth.
>>>>
>>>> Donald Anadell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill Drake" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> When I installed the Patch Tuesday updates on my WXP Box
>>>>> with MSIE6 installed. I had the same problems with IE6 startup
>>>>> as others are mentioning in these newsgroups.
>>>>>
>>>>> Specifically, about 60% of the time, I would get an "Internet
>>>>> Explorer has encountered a problem and must close" dialog.
>>>>> I dutifully reported the failure to Microsoft and then repeatedly
>>>>> tried reopening IE6 until it would successfully open.
>>>>>
>>>>> The above occurred when opening my default homepage,
>>>>> which is "My MSN" - and is heavily customized.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cleaning my Internet Explorer Tempfolder and moving to a
>>>>> blank opening page solved the problem. However, this was
>>>>> not an acceptable solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> I then rebooted the machine, restored my default homepage
>>>>> and tried opening IE6 again. Now, the machine is working
>>>>> correctly, even after multiple open/close cycles.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect the KB942615 update should be coded to force a reboot
>>>>> and does not. Consequently, some part of the update that requires
>>>>> a reboot before the update is fully applied does not get done.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a result, installing this update without the reboot causes IE6
>>>>> to run in a "half-updated/half-not-updated" mode - which causes
>>>>> the problem described above to occur.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those experiencing this problem, please try moving to a blank
>>>>> opening page - and then reboot your machine again after the
>>>>> KB942615 update is installed. Once this is done, restore your
>>>>> default homepage. See if this procedure resolves your problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best I can do for now. <tm>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:58 am
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Hi, Kurt. I have now tested the information found on the KB942367
webpage against the new urlmon.dll found in the KB942615 update.

From the testing I have done so far, the Registry Entry item
detailed on the KB942367 page is all that is required to be added
to the system - to allow the KB942615 update to perform reliably.

MSIE6 does not intermittently crash when starting up on my
default home page (My MSN) with this Registry Edit in place.

I did not install the KB942367 update - I simply installed the
KB942613 update and added the Registry Edit specified on
the KB942367 webpage.


From everything I can see here, it would seem to me this Registry
Edit should have been applied as part of the install script for
KB942615 - since the version 6.0.2900.3231 urlmon.dll file shipped
with KB942615 has had the requisite code installed in the DLL all
the way back to version 6.0.2900.3213 - which was released on
Sept 12/07.

Regardless, I will be doing more testing over the next 24 hours in
order to ensure that the system is stable with this new Registry
Entry in place. I will report back to the group once I am reasonably
certain this bugfix is stable.


Best I can do for now. <tm>


Bill


Kurt Falde [MSFT] wrote:
> From what another engineer told me this is right. the fix in 942367
> probably did not need to be installed just the registry key needs to
> be in place as this fix is already included in the urlmon.dll thats
> in the update just released. Thanks for letting me know.
>
>
> "Donald Anadell" wrote in message
>
>> Hi Kurt,
>>
>> I received the KB942367 Hotfix and installed it along with the
>> associated Registry Tweak. Only some time and some heavy Browsing
>> will tell if this has fixed the Urlmon.dll crashing problem in IE6,
>> so far so good but I'll give it a few days to see how it goes.
>>
>> I am a little bewildered as to the version of Urlmon.dll that
>> remains in the System32 folder and dllcache folder though after
>> applying the hotfix. The Article(KB942367) implies that the hotfix
>> will install version 6.0.2900.3213 of urlmon.dll(or am I reading that
>> wrong). However,
>> after applying the hotfix I'm still left with the version of
>> urlmon.dll that was installed KB942615 Cumulative Security Update,
>> version 6.0.2900.3231. Does this sound right to you, the hotfix should
>> only patch the
>> existing urlmon.dll file as long as it is version 6.0.2900.3213(or
>> higher), or is it supposed to replace the existing version with a
>> specific version? I extracted all the files from the hotfix setup
>> file and I don't see a urlmon.dll file included in the setup, maybe
>> it's just the geek speak in the KB Article that has me looking for
>> something that isn't supposed to be there:o)
>>
>> At any rate,
>>
>> 1. I applied the hotfix offered as you suggested.
>> 2. Performed the Registry Tweak after installing the hotfix(per the
>> instructions the KB942367 Article).
>> 3. After performing steps one and two, I'm left with urlmon.dll
>> version 6.0.2900.3231 in both the System32 and dllcache folders.
>>
>> LOL...I'll be glad when SP3 arrives, fixing Updates with hotfixes it
>> taking it to the extreme for my 60 year old brain:)
>>
>> Thanks again for your assistance,
>>
>> Donald Anadell
>>
>>
>> "Donald Anadell" wrote in message
>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback Kurt,
>>>
>>> I've submitted for the Hotfix, when I get the link back and get it
>>> downloaded and installed I'll post back the results.
>>>
>>> Donald Anadell
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kurt Falde [MSFT]" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Please try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942367 and let us know
>>>> if this resolves your issues.
>>>> Use the online request form to get the fix.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kurt Falde [MSFT]
>>>>
>>>>
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:35 pm
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Thanks for the feedback Kurt.

If the hotfix(KB942367) is already coded into the 6.0.2900.3231 version of
urlmon.dll(KB942615), I'm going to uninstall the hotfix and just run with
the Registry Tweak to see how that works out.

Thanks again for your assistance,

Donald Anadell


"Kurt Falde [MSFT]" wrote in message

> From what another engineer told me this is right. the fix in 942367
> probably did not need to be installed just the registry key needs to be in
> place as this fix is already included in the urlmon.dll thats in the
> update just released. Thanks for letting me know.
>
> --
> Kurt Falde [MSFT]
>
>
>
>
> "Donald Anadell" wrote in message
>
>> Hi Kurt,
>>
>> I received the KB942367 Hotfix and installed it along with the associated
>> Registry Tweak. Only some time and some heavy Browsing will tell if this
>> has fixed the Urlmon.dll crashing problem in IE6, so far so good but I'll
>> give it a few days to see how it goes.
>>
>> I am a little bewildered as to the version of Urlmon.dll that remains in
>> the System32 folder and dllcache folder though after applying the hotfix.
>> The Article(KB942367) implies that the hotfix will install version
>> 6.0.2900.3213 of urlmon.dll(or am I reading that wrong). However, after
>> applying the hotfix I'm still left with the version of urlmon.dll that
>> was installed KB942615 Cumulative Security Update, version 6.0.2900.3231.
>>
>> Does this sound right to you, the hotfix should only patch the existing
>> urlmon.dll file as long as it is version 6.0.2900.3213(or higher), or is
>> it supposed to replace the existing version with a specific version? I
>> extracted all the files from the hotfix setup file and I don't see a
>> urlmon.dll file included in the setup, maybe it's just the geek speak in
>> the KB Article that has me looking for something that isn't supposed to
>> be there:o)
>>
>> At any rate,
>>
>> 1. I applied the hotfix offered as you suggested.
>> 2. Performed the Registry Tweak after installing the hotfix(per the
>> instructions the KB942367 Article).
>> 3. After performing steps one and two, I'm left with urlmon.dll version
>> 6.0.2900.3231 in both the System32 and dllcache folders.
>>
>> LOL...I'll be glad when SP3 arrives, fixing Updates with hotfixes it
>> taking it to the extreme for my 60 year old brain:)
>>
>> Thanks again for your assistance,
>>
>> Donald Anadell
>>
>>
>> "Donald Anadell" wrote in message
>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback Kurt,
>>>
>>> I've submitted for the Hotfix, when I get the link back and get it
>>> downloaded and installed I'll post back the results.
>>>
>>> Donald Anadell
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kurt Falde [MSFT]" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Please try http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942367 and let us know if
>>>> this resolves your issues.
>>>> Use the online request form to get the fix.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kurt Falde [MSFT]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Donald Anadell" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Since this seems to be the Tread most relevant to the Urlmon.dll
>>>>> crashes in
>>>>> IE6 after applying KB942615 I'll post my experiences with this Patch
>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a home environment with Windows XP Home SP2 and IE6, I'm also
>>>>> experiencing random crashes of IE6 with urlmon.dll as the faulting
>>>>> module
>>>>> since manually installing this Update late Tuesday evening.
>>>>>
>>>>> The following screenshot depicts the Application errors in the Event
>>>>> Viewer
>>>>> that are incurred since installing this Update:
>>>>> http://users.mikrotec.com/danadell/wwwpages/test/urlmonDllErrors.gif
>>>>>
>>>>> While they are random in nature, as you can see by the screenshot they
>>>>> are
>>>>> beginning to amass.
>>>>>
>>>>> This problem does not exist on the machines with IE7 and KB942615
>>>>> installed,
>>>>> only on the machine with IE6 and KB942615 installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> My two cents worth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Donald Anadell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill Drake" wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> When I installed the Patch Tuesday updates on my WXP Box
>>>>>> with MSIE6 installed. I had the same problems with IE6 startup
>>>>>> as others are mentioning in these newsgroups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Specifically, about 60% of the time, I would get an "Internet
>>>>>> Explorer has encountered a problem and must close" dialog.
>>>>>> I dutifully reported the failure to Microsoft and then repeatedly
>>>>>> tried reopening IE6 until it would successfully open.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The above occurred when opening my default homepage,
>>>>>> which is "My MSN" - and is heavily customized.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cleaning my Internet Explorer Tempfolder and moving to a
>>>>>> blank opening page solved the problem. However, this was
>>>>>> not an acceptable solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I then rebooted the machine, restored my default homepage
>>>>>> and tried opening IE6 again. Now, the machine is working
>>>>>> correctly, even after multiple open/close cycles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect the KB942615 update should be coded to force a reboot
>>>>>> and does not. Consequently, some part of the update that requires
>>>>>> a reboot before the update is fully applied does not get done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a result, installing this update without the reboot causes IE6
>>>>>> to run in a "half-updated/half-not-updated" mode - which causes
>>>>>> the problem described above to occur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those experiencing this problem, please try moving to a blank
>>>>>> opening page - and then reboot your machine again after the
>>>>>> KB942615 update is installed. Once this is done, restore your
>>>>>> default homepage. See if this procedure resolves your problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best I can do for now. <tm>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:28 pm
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Since the recent updates, I've been sending frequent error reports from IE6
as it closes by itself.
A big "thank you" to Kurt and Bill for posting an explanation so that a home
user can understand the problem and decide what to do.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:36 am
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"Kurt Falde [MSFT]" schrieb:

> From what another engineer told me this is right. the fix in 942367
> probably did not need to be installed just the registry key needs to be in
> place as this fix is already included in the urlmon.dll thats in the update
> just released. Thanks for letting me know.

Thanks jumping in, Kurt! Smile

Now, since the "registry hack" seems to solve the problems with urlmon.dll
running IE6 under Windows XP SP2, wouldn't it be a good idea to revise the
Security Bulletin MS07-069 and the "Known Issues" section there which still
states, that there are no known problems?

Further more, what will the next steps be from MS to really fix the issue
for the average user? The release of a KB942615v2 for IE6 on Windows XP SP2
*inculding* the registry fix or even better, releasing the update package
with a fixed urlmon.dll? Me thinks it's somewhat unacceptable to force
users hacking in the heart and brain of Windows aka the registry themself
and leaving those users in the dark, which will most likely never find the
way into the newsgroups to get aware of the -well- "fix".

In the meantime I've uploaded the registry fix on my little web site the
other day: http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/IE6SP2_urlmon_dll-Crash.zip
The zip file contains "IE6SP2_Hotfix_KB942367_aktivieren.reg" which will
import the neccessary "registry hack" into the registry after double
clicking on it and letting it merge into the registry.
"IE6SP2_Hotfix_KB942367_deaktivieren.reg" is included in the zip file too
which will remove the registry keys again in case someone needs too.
Note that the registry fix only works for these IE6 instances, that have
been started *after* applying the registry hack/fix. So it's a good idea
to close *all* opened IE6 windows *before* applying the registry fix.

Bye,
Freudi
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:29 am
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"Ottmar Freudenberger" wrote:

> "Kurt Falde [MSFT]" schrieb:
>
> > From what another engineer told me this is right. the fix in 942367
> > probably did not need to be installed just the registry key needs to be in
> > place as this fix is already included in the urlmon.dll thats in the update
> > just released. Thanks for letting me know.
>
> Thanks jumping in, Kurt! Smile
>
> Now, since the "registry hack" seems to solve the problems with urlmon.dll
> running IE6 under Windows XP SP2, wouldn't it be a good idea to revise the
> Security Bulletin MS07-069 and the "Known Issues" section there which still
> states, that there are no known problems?
>
> Further more, what will the next steps be from MS to really fix the issue
> for the average user? The release of a KB942615v2 for IE6 on Windows XP SP2
> *inculding* the registry fix or even better, releasing the update package
> with a fixed urlmon.dll? Me thinks it's somewhat unacceptable to force
> users hacking in the heart and brain of Windows aka the registry themself
> and leaving those users in the dark, which will most likely never find the
> way into the newsgroups to get aware of the -well- "fix".
>
> In the meantime I've uploaded the registry fix on my little web site the
> other day: http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/IE6SP2_urlmon_dll-Crash.zip
> The zip file contains "IE6SP2_Hotfix_KB942367_aktivieren.reg" which will
> import the neccessary "registry hack" into the registry after double
> clicking on it and letting it merge into the registry.
> "IE6SP2_Hotfix_KB942367_deaktivieren.reg" is included in the zip file too
> which will remove the registry keys again in case someone needs too.
> Note that the registry fix only works for these IE6 instances, that have
> been started *after* applying the registry hack/fix. So it's a good idea
> to close *all* opened IE6 windows *before* applying the registry fix.
>
> Bye,
> Freudi

THANK YOU, Freudi! Worked like a charm! Smile
~Carol
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:18 pm
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I'm sooo confused... All I want to do is dl the KB. Has it been corrected or
do I have to wait. I dont want to work on the registry at all..

thanks
sharkman

~Carol wrote:
> "Ottmar Freudenberger" wrote:
>
>> "Kurt Falde [MSFT]" schrieb:
>>
>> > From what another engineer told me this is right. the fix in
>> > 942367 probably did not need to be installed just the registry key
>> > needs to be in place as this fix is already included in the
>> > urlmon.dll thats in the update just released. Thanks for letting
>> > me know.
>>
>> Thanks jumping in, Kurt! Smile
>>
>> Now, since the "registry hack" seems to solve the problems with
>> urlmon.dll running IE6 under Windows XP SP2, wouldn't it be a good
>> idea to revise the Security Bulletin MS07-069 and the "Known Issues"
>> section there which still states, that there are no known problems?
>>
>> Further more, what will the next steps be from MS to really fix the
>> issue for the average user? The release of a KB942615v2 for IE6 on
>> Windows XP SP2 *inculding* the registry fix or even better,
>> releasing the update package with a fixed urlmon.dll? Me thinks it's
>> somewhat unacceptable to force users hacking in the heart and brain
>> of Windows aka the registry themself and leaving those users in the
>> dark, which will most likely never find the way into the newsgroups
>> to get aware of the -well- "fix".
>>
>> In the meantime I've uploaded the registry fix on my little web site
>> the other day:
>> http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/IE6SP2_urlmon_dll-Crash.zip The
>> zip file contains "IE6SP2_Hotfix_KB942367_aktivieren.reg" which will
>> import the neccessary "registry hack" into the registry after double
>> clicking on it and letting it merge into the registry.
>> "IE6SP2_Hotfix_KB942367_deaktivieren.reg" is included in the zip
>> file too which will remove the registry keys again in case someone
>> needs too.
>> Note that the registry fix only works for these IE6 instances, that
>> have been started *after* applying the registry hack/fix. So it's a
>> good idea to close *all* opened IE6 windows *before* applying the
>> registry fix.
>>
>> Bye,
>> Freudi
>
> THANK YOU, Freudi! Worked like a charm! Smile
> ~Carol
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:38 pm
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I have not updated my machine yet as I am too busy to be on it anyway. I do
however have 85 computers at work that I am getting ready to install the
updates on. But first at my other job one person did install the updates
with the same urlmon issues.

Now I could have easily followed the instructions in the article telling how
to modify the registry but since Freudi took the time to post the reg file
so we could all simply download and run it was great. Saved me time and will
save others that are afraid to go into the registry the fear of doing so.

That said. Freudi you did include a reg file to make it easy to remove the
new key in the future if one wants to. Do you think it necessary to remove
this key when the next cumulative updated comes out or at some time in the
future?

Thanks

"Ottmar Freudenberger" wrote in message

> "Kurt Falde [MSFT]" schrieb:
>
>> From what another engineer told me this is right. the fix in 942367
>> probably did not need to be installed just the registry key needs to be
>> in
>> place as this fix is already included in the urlmon.dll thats in the
>> update
>> just released. Thanks for letting me know.
>
> Thanks jumping in, Kurt! Smile
>
> Now, since the "registry hack" seems to solve the problems with urlmon.dll
> running IE6 under Windows XP SP2, wouldn't it be a good idea to revise the
> Security Bulletin MS07-069 and the "Known Issues" section there which
> still
> states, that there are no known problems?
>
> Further more, what will the next steps be from MS to really fix the issue
> for the average user? The release of a KB942615v2 for IE6 on Windows XP
> SP2
> *inculding* the registry fix or even better, releasing the update package
> with a fixed urlmon.dll? Me thinks it's somewhat unacceptable to force
> users hacking in the heart and brain of Windows aka the registry themself
> and leaving those users in the dark, which will most likely never find the
> way into the newsgroups to get aware of the -well- "fix".
>
> In the meantime I've uploaded the registry fix on my little web site the
> other day: http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/IE6SP2_urlmon_dll-Crash.zip
> The zip file contains "IE6SP2_Hotfix_KB942367_aktivieren.reg" which will
> import the neccessary "registry hack" into the registry after double
> clicking on it and letting it merge into the registry.
> "IE6SP2_Hotfix_KB942367_deaktivieren.reg" is included in the zip file too
> which will remove the registry keys again in case someone needs too.
> Note that the registry fix only works for these IE6 instances, that have
> been started *after* applying the registry hack/fix. So it's a good idea
> to close *all* opened IE6 windows *before* applying the registry fix.
>
> Bye,
> Freudi
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:07 pm
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"Vince" schrieb:

> That said. Freudi you did include a reg file to make it easy to remove the
> new key in the future if one wants to. Do you think it necessary to remove
> this key when the next cumulative updated comes out or at some time in the
> future?

I doubt it will be neccessary, but you never know. I'll post in this
very thread *if* MS fixes the issue themself by releasing a "repaired/
repairing" update and in case it's needed to remove the registry key.

You're welcome,
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